Andy Brown's Exploring Emotional Overdraft with Chris Thomas

In this episode of "Andy Brown's Exploring Emotional Overdraft," Andy Brown sits down with Chris Thomas, the founder of Cake Agency, an e-commerce agency. 

During the chat, Chris discusses his own emotional overdraft, sharing  his experience of starting out as retailer, running a business, and the personal sacrifices it has often entailed.  

Chris shared that like many founders, he has frequently dipped into and even lived in his emotional overdraft. Chris talks about finding solace in working alongside his partner in the business - speaking about the benefits of having someone who understands the business, creating a shared understanding and language. 

Andy and Chris also discuss the importance of identifying times when you play hard into your emotional overdraft and how to actively work towards repaying it. 

Chris shares his strategies of delegating and leveraging his accountancy background for reassuranc, noting he has found fulfillment in coaching others. 

Throughout, there is a theme that Chris feels a real sense of duty towards his business and team, and the two discuss the implications this driver can have on emotional overdraft. 

Episode Highlights:

• Stepping away from the office and finding physical distance to resolve issues in one's head.
• The personal sacrifices often associated with running a business and the importance of appreciating the journey.
• The significance of having a partner who understands the business and shares a common language.
• Recognizing that everyone's experience of emotional overdraft is unique and finding individual ways to address it.
• Strategies for reducing emotional overdraft, such as delegating and leveraging skills and expertise.
• The value of coaching as a means of redirecting one's doer instincts.
• The duty of building a business that can achieve goals, emphasizing the role of systems and processes.